Hey rick, yeah you will want to use Joy Gremlin or Universal Control Remapper alongside vjoy. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). Vectors which had previously been relegated to the keyboard or tiny hat switches were now integrated into the joysticks themselves. I plan on positing a review of the mcg ultimate once I receive it (should be getting it later this week hopefully) if you're curious. Thank you for all the suggestions. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/request-for-more-than-32-buttons-virpil-throttle.443129/page-4. 3 - anyone with theses setups i am conimg from a logitech x56 how to they compare in terms of build quality and feel? I've gone back to a single, non-split profile, still nada on any of the three axes . Still, you cant really go wrong with either choice. It has plenty of hat switches, plus an assortment of triggers that are perfect for games in the IL-2 Sturmovik family or other high-end simulations. If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. The Virpil Constellation Alpha also comes in a left-handed variant. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. September 8, 2019 in Hardware, Software and Controllers. VIRPIL hardware key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out, https://virpil.freshdesk.com/en/supes/47000029808-vpc-software-quick-start-guide, HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick - Thrustmaster - Technical support website, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/controls-not-sticking.558432/#post-8792964. Ok yes the firmware and software was installed. If you have the budget for it, I'd say wait a week to see some reviews for the MCG Ultimate. They strike a good balance between price point and feature set, sitting comfortably in between classics like the Logitech X-52 and the Thrustmaster T16000, and higher end products from Thrustmaster and VKB. You are using an out of date browser. Lastly if you have any thoughts please let me know as i know for some spending this kind of money is easy but for its hard for me as now that i have a young family money isnt just failing out of my wallet and i want to make the right purchase as i can barely afford to do it once. When you run the Virpil Joystick tester, do all the analog axes and button inputs show up? I do play in VR pretty often, so the numerous buttons at my fingertips on the Virpil stick apeals to me. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It will simply store your configuation under "custom". Ive been taking it for a test drive on my custom-built flight rig. Swapping out the throttle for another stick meant that I had to constantly hold the left-hand stick forward to maintain forward thrust. My own conclusion was that VKB is around 10% cheaper and 99% as good as Virpil. The game to get one is better than playing ED. Previously, those functions sat on a tiny hat switch on my throttle. However, worse was that ED (and Il-2 and DCS) now do not recognize any of the axes on the throttle. People use keyboard to play E:D. Keyboards have more than 32 buttons.. my x56 throttle alone has more than 32 buttons, all bound to ed controls :). I have the twist adapter for the original MCG and while the twist itself is great, the ergonomics of the MCG grip are not the best for twisting (as it was never really designed for that). It was a bit of a process to pull apart my two kosmosima grips to fish out the good peg and slap it into my right hand stick, but I'm starting to get a little miffed with the durability of some of these small components. A lot cheaper and for someone that isn't hardcore into tons of flying will be more than sufficient. Good news for fans of Microsoft Flight Simulator, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. As I said before I dont think you can go wrong either way though. Thanks, Ill take your advise. Have a look through the Virpil forums. But, if youre looking to spend a relatively modest amount of money on a more general purpose device something that might work with terrestrial and space flight I recommend you take a look at Virpil Controls, a small European company that is doing some really remarkable work. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). It may show you something you did wrong. Vs the VKB Gunfighter MK3 with the modern combat edition grip and 200mm s curve extension for 433.13 euro ($707.21 aud) (includes shipping). JavaScript is disabled. See our ethics statement. Oops. 04.08.20|The sheet for the Throttle has been updated (a button was missing). - VKB gunfighter base vs Virpils bases: VKB has a dry clutch. Those look awfully nice. They release quickly, making storage a breeze. I only have experience with vkb, but from everything I've read on here they are, for the most part, neck and neck, and I can't see you being disappointed with either. I dont care about cost or desk mounting height or which is the better company or customer service . Explaining the difference is difficult to do with words. Be careful about copying other peoples bindings, as most of them seem to have really weird ideas or they might do only exploring so never use pips and things like that. Been rocking dual gladiator Ks for a while now (they have been discontinued and replaced with the NXT) but just recently, with just under about 6 months of use I've been having a few small things breaking. Previously I had played spaceflight simulation games with a single stick and throttle, which is known as a hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) setup. The thing that really sold me on it is that the hat switches and mini sticks on the the top are completely modular, so you can literally just drop whichever one you like to suit your purposes without having to take apart the stick. Sorry to resurrect the thread, but I've have my MongoosT-50CM2 throttle for a couple of months and my Constellation Delta should be in this week. If not, then you've configured the device incorrectly. VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. I've spent the last couple of days researching all this so here is my thought process which may also help with your decision. I definitely have more than 38 inputs on my x55. Can't speak for Virpil as I've got VKB, so disclosure, obviously this is possibly biased opinion. I love both sets but have settled on an MCG Gunfighter with T-rudders and the Virpil throttle. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. Im looking at either going the virpil mongoos T-50 CM2 base with the mongoos T-50 CM2 grip or constellation alpha grip with the 200mm S curve extension for 554.81 euro (905.89 aud) (includes shipping). Toe in and out being the most prominent I can see. I also have smallish hands and found that VKB is better suited to my hands and more ergonomically designed. I intend to do mostly spaceflight sims with the stick(s). The Gunfighter is apparently available so even though I probably don't need it, common sense might desert me and I'll plump for the pricier option just because I cant wait. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn34PHd34x4, Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8odaH98Yms. Initially I'm after a stick and will continue to use my X55 throttle, eventually I'll replace my throttle or possibly go 2 sticks. I currently have a T.16kM HOTAS setup and am looking to upgrade the flightstick first and eventually move over to a HOSAS setup. And just last night the plastic peg for one of the hat switches snapped. But now Im able to use the two sticks twist axes to handle strafing (right) and moving up and down (left). All rights reserved Most people get around this by using software such as Vjoy, Joystick Gremlin, or JoyToKey. I'd pass on the NXT if your budget allows for something with cams. Youll find examples from both brands where people got shipped a dud product or had a bad experience with customer service, but on the whole theyre both producing excellent hardware and its gonna come down to personal preference for the most part. I have a warthog here, definitely above other sticks I owned, I feel like Virpils are too. You can watch some youtube teardowns and see that VKB pays attention to the internals in a really impressive way. If you buy something from a Polygon link, Vox Media may earn a commission. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I managed to get hold of a Virpil constellation alpha (R) and a CM2 throttle, it was an emotional 2 month process. In this review, we'll take a closer look at Virpil's MongoosT-50CM2 throttle, comparing it with the popular Thrustmaster TWCS. I use one from Wavlink and have 7 devices plugged into it with no problems, including a Virpil joystick, a VKB joystick and a Virpil throttle. It functions great and feels great. It took me 6 months before I could get my order in for the Alpha. i use a steam controller and nothing else mostly unless i need a hotkey for certain things on the keyboard. Just use the Virpil configuration software, click the box for split by 32 buttons on the profile page and calibrate it. Here's my mapping for Elite, perhaps a little out of date re: some of the macros I mentioned above, and admittedly I use my LH stick weird (sideways oriented as a throttle) so I've converted an axis to 'relative' mode with a button as reset, which removes it from use as a button in-game. Something went wrong. I mostly play Elite Dangerous in VR and they have been fantastic for this with so many buttons and axis. Better options out there? The configuration software is very detailed but complicated. Have you tried each device individually with nothing else plugged in? https://1drv.ms/p/s!AuHD2NL7qn3w3gxZVfByQOacohmx?e=RhWkjj. Its high-end equipment is currently in stock. That's it. TL;DR: worth waiting and paying for Virpil over VKB if I'm leaning Virpil and want as many fingertip buttons as possible? TECS (Twin Engine Control System) is a completely new throttle control device made for today's and future jet warbirds. Virpil has its own configuration and testing. I received it in just over 4 weeks too, just a day before Christmas! Overall, Im smitten with these Virpil controls. You would basically map your joysticks inputs past 32 to a virtual vjoy device then you are all set. I read a few posts about which is best but most people commenting have not used both to really compare. Unfortunately, they're a way down the list now. Oh, and to actually answer your question: both the virpil constellation and vkb kosmosima are fantastic. Press J to jump to the feed. So whats a budding flight or space sim enthusiast to do? In term of quality, feel and performance? Please enter a valid email and try again. Both are great sticks, I have both of them and use extensions with them - however I have not tried using the Warthog grip as I am happy with their grips. VKB vs Thrustmaster T16000M Ken Cikas 1.4K subscribers Subscribe 20K views 3 years ago Put about 170 hours into Elite Dangerous and this T16000M from Thrustmaster is about done so I. I didn't say ED provided a game setting for Virpil. It would be wrong to say that TECS "worthily follows the line of VKB engineering tradition . I also built a button box arrangement into my chair power controls (seat adjust, subwoofer, surround shoulder speakers, cooling) and find I almost never let go of the sticks to USE the button box. I can't speak for Virpil's interiors but I've been inside the grip on my VKB and the way they use independent little boards with pin receptacles to link things together on the Kosmo Premium is amazing, and would be very easy to obtain parts for repair if only one control were to fail for any reason. I have a good comparison of VKB and Virpil looking at the Modern Combat Grip (Their other premium grip, recently being re-released in an all-metal build) and the Constellation-Alpha, and they perform nearly identical in my opinion.. My personal experience with VKB's Kosmosima grip (the grip that comes in their MK3 space combat edition package) is very negative. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. If I had to choose one it would be an Alpha L or R whichever was needed, and as a pair Virpil arguably makes the best HOSAS you can get. Cookie Notice Initially it was all a bit daunting but after a fair bit of reading various threads this is where I'm at A bit about my requirements - Got to be desktop based. Both can be gotten with twist. I would not have thought there were no set binds for those devices, and its up to your personal preference to programme in. Complete your WWII Flight Sim setup with this GNX Combo Throttle Theres even a line of collective grips on the way, which will be perfect for the new helicopters coming to DCS World and Microsoft Flight Simulator in the not-to-distant future. I used this for my warthog. Its unique to you. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. If you use the Virpil software there's an option somewhere to divide number of controls into groups of 32. Using a Virpil HOTAS in Elite Dangerous Ken Cikas 1.25K subscribers Subscribe 61 Share 7.4K views 2 years ago Finally got around to editing this down. After a few hours of HOSAS practice, I suddenly found myself with much more precise and immediate control over my virtual spaceships than ever before. They are both superb bits of kit though and you will not regret buying either. Out of the box, Virpils large, grippy rubber feet stay put on most surfaces. If you fly helos, you will fall in love with this. What 'limit' are you talking about? They have adopted the Thrustmaster Warthog connector and improved it while staying backwards compatible. Its also mostly plastic, but in a good way. Virpil pedals are much, much lower to the floor and accommodate a wider stance which, as a 66 man, I greatly appreciate. Same would be true with the Gunfighter. Try contacting vkb about the broken parts, depending on how old your stick is, I've seen people post on here that they just sent them a bunch of parts to repair failed items. Note that youll need two of the Desk Mount V3-S devices for a HOSAS solution using the Virpil Constellation sticks, which brings the price of accessories up to $140. By I also had several screw heads shatter as I attempted to remove them, either due to being made from weak metal or being gummed up with too much thread locking paste. Between the WarBRD and Gunfighter options it really seems to come down to personal preference and I'll never know without putting my hands on each. 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What do you mean by splitting axes? Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. Maybe you should try moving some to other ports on your computer if you haven't tried that yet. After correspondence with Virpil I have to load and create a profile for each device individually, one at a time. What I've put together is a bit of how I use. Still other manufacturers are taking pre-orders, and then banging out new units as quickly as they can. I haven't checked Virpil in a while but didn't think anything had more than the MCG Pro, with the hat over on the index finger position as well as on the thumbrest. Even basic assembly drove me out to YouTube where I spent hours freeze-framing foreign language unboxing videos to find out which screw goes where. The scissors gimbal is not very pleasant around center. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. HOTAS (hands on throttle and sticks) It works perfectly with all buttons. Virpil's compression springs in the Mongoos are nice, but the WarBRD doesn't use them. So vkb is not the first/only. You're not running all your USB devices through the one hub are you? sorry don't own one but a here's a something you may like to try first. Or I can get the Virpil one and have a 2 stick approach which will let me actually assess a proper preference. I do use pedals too but haven't even mapped twist on my right hand, so that's itself not a limitation if you didn't intend to use them. It has about twice as many buttons as Microsoft Windows recognizes on a game controller, which means youll need to take some extra time to get it tuned before you hop into a game. I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. But that being said, if you're focusing on space games, I'm leaning towards thinking you'll prefer the gunfighter + kosmosima or virpils constellation. Valve Corporation. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. They also have just the right amount of heft to them, and feel like a substantial upgrade to the kinds of flight sticks Ive been using for the last decade. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. Logitech, Thrustmaster, and many of the big name manufacturers are out of stock everywhere you look. There's only so much your thumb can roam around and do. It feels more robust than the Logitech X-52 and X-56, but lighter than the all-metal Thrustmaster Warthog. I've had Virpil for a while and have even refined my setup over time trying different grips/bases/throttles. Better still, the Constellations side-mounted thumbsticks mean that you can actually navigate on foot without ever taking your hands off the joysticks. Right now my mind is still on a throttle rather than 2 sticks and I'm looking at either the Virpil MongoosT or the VKB one that is allegedly coming in a couple of months. How easy was the software to learn? Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Perhaps toe break tension as well. If I want to upgrade in the future I can just buy the Gunfighter base and use the kosmosima stick (If VKB follow through and actually let you buy bases separately). Either way, in terms of quality and build at least it seems like a toss up. I use Joystick gremlin, so elite can see all the buttons on the throttle. A good USB powered hub should help with this. If that checks out, Elite should see all the analog axes and some of the buttons. You might want to look for something with versatility since a lot of REALLY nice sticks try to fit specific requirements, like DCS OR ELITE rather than DCS AND ELITE. Overall, I'd recommend VKB for quality and performance. 2 - is virpil worth the extra $200+ more and a very long wait. The only other thing up in the same price and perhaps build quality (I don't truly know about them either other than what I've read here, they're trying at least) is Winwing but their stick option is much more limited in overall controls. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Both companies use high quality metal gimbals and contactless sensors for axes. With those limitations in mind, I still cant help but recommend Virpil. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. And every one but a single dial is bound. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. You all have inspired me to investigate higher quality gear for my flight sim time. in Elite I set one hat to move pips to weaps / sys / eng, 4th position being the 'reset', but I can also long press in the 'weap' direction to activate a macro that 'resets' and quickly bumps to my preferred overall 'fighting' weap-sys distribution, or same thing in the 'engine' direction quickly gets me to run-away distribution. (e.g. Price isn't the issue as much as quality for me. The full analog mini on both (plus the option of the second which is switchable from digital hat to analog on the fly on the MCG Pro) offers additional axes besides the main X/Y. You basically have the exact situation as me, except that I am using detachable desktop mounts to put the stick and throttle at a better hight for my arms, which I can then move them out of the way after play, like you had to. Anyone use Vjoy or similar to get past ED's 32 button limit? You are using an out of date browser. Where as the constellation/kosmosima grips where designed with twisting in mind. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. If youre playing a more hardcore flight simulator, like something from the DCS World portfolio, you probably already know about VKB. First, the documentation on these products ranges from awful to non-existent. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. My favorite set of kit is called the Virpil Constellation Alpha, which, when coupled with a throttle, does an admirable job of controlling commercial aircraft. Nevertheless, late last year Virpil sent along a selection of its most popular flight gear. 03.03.20|The sheets for the ALPHA-grips have been updated (the dual-push for the scroll encoder has been added and there was a problem with duplicating entries). VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. Gonna sound real silly but I miss the days of walking into a electronics shop and being able to actually try the feel of the sticks out. There are some there. (The Alpha-R is on backorder along with the MongoosT-50CM2 grip as well). Elite will not show a profile that specifically names the Virpil hardware. I'm in a similar boat to you. Is the base the same on both? It features a dead-simple clamp with an adjustable bite, which you can dial in to firmly grasp the edge of your desk surface and hold fast. I have an idea from my previous setup, but never really got round to completing it for Exploring and even negotiation of the galaxy map, I need to sort this finally as Im using an old DK2 VR and must stop the temptation to use my keyboard, or mouse. I will be using it for flight sims mainly dcs in modern jets f14, f18 and i will have it centre mounted in a simpit. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. I'd consider myself a fairly casual player that is fortunate enough to have enough expendable money for lavish purchases such as this. From scanning the reddit here it seems that VKB and Virpil seem to have similar quality and satisfaction from those who have bought, so after that it really does come down to how it feels in your hand and actually trying out the buttons and the layout, which is something you dont get to try until youve already made a decision and honestly something that others cant help with. Also known as a hand-on-stick-and-stick (HOSAS) setup, I found that it completely changed the flight experience in both Star Citizens Persistent Universe and Elite Dangerous. Outline:0:00 - First impressio. This unique state of art device is already out of "development" phase, and is currently entering "preparation for serial production". The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. If anyone has alternate suggestions for awesome, high quality flight sticks. Was looking at getting a new one but decided I might as well upgrade to either the VKB Gunfighter or Virpril T50 and would love some advice and opinions on both setups. 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? Virpil's software isn't very intuitive. Everything I've ever bought from VKB has been spot on out of the box. Right? Question on the VKB customization software? But, by pulling back on that stick I had easy access to reverse thrust, which makes slowing down and changing directions in space a lot snappier. > Q&A Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). HOSAS made me a harder target to hit, and helped to improve my own aim especially with fixed weapons. You must log in or register to reply here. 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